This was the Autodesk/Marinchip dealers' meeting mentioned in Information Letter 7 (page [Ref]), which occurred on August 7–8th, 1982. Prior to this point I had not asked Lars about joining Autodesk because in all of my conversations with him he seemed totally focused on selling hardware systems based on Texas Instruments processors. At the London meeting it was clear that he was interested in a venture like Autodesk, and we asked him to join the company.